E 'comeback to the fore the discussion on Luogocomune Simoncini, following an article in the Republic: http://snipurl.com/19ozju
Luogocomune notes the following.
Initially, the section read as follows:
bicarbonate instead of chemotherapy. [Bold in original]. The antacids, proton pump inhibitors and even baking soda, could replace chemotherapy.
But after it became like this:
antacids instead of chemotherapy? [Bold in original]. The other search is for the antacids. Proton pump inhibitors generally used for gastric ulcers could replace chemotherapy.
Let's see what he says Mazzucco:
Within a few hours, baking has become an "antacid" generic, the phrase "even the bicarbonate "is gone, and the" proton pump "has been the only one to compete with chemotherapy. Seen me in a hurry to adapt to changing times?
pity that the phrase "even baking" has been somehow "entangled" in the text of the first paragraph - perhaps the spelling, in turmoil at the time, did not notice - making it even more clearly the intention to change back to the tables.
do not understand why people become involved in the plot fall into errors always gaudy:
- forget parts articles to remove;
- spread chemical agents from aircraft in broad daylight, so that everyone can see;
- bring a lookalike of Osama Bin Laden not like him at all.
I could go down the list until the end of the world (ie December 2012) but I will stop here.
Come in detail.
Republic's article speaks of an official ISS (ISS from Wikipedia). This press release is freely commenting on the journalist, who also participates in a number of personal interpretations. And there may be those detractors who cry Simoncini in the plot.
highlight parts of the Republic Article inverted commas then it is assumed siano citazioni dell'annuncio ufficiale o comunque dichiarazioni rilasciate dai ricercatori citati nell'articolo:
Una molecola disorienta il cancro
Essere abili a controllare l'attività dei geni del cancro - dice James Bradner, del Dana-Farber Cancer Institute - può avere un impatto elevatissimo per la lotta contro questa malattia. Se si riesce a spegnere i geni responsabili della crescita delle cellule cancerose queste cellule muoiono
L'acidità è un meccanismo che il cancro usa per isolarsi da tutto il resto, farmaci compresi - spiega Stefano Fais, presidente Ispdc e membro del dipartimento del farmaco dell'Iss -. Ma le cellule tumorali, per difendersi a loro volta da questo ambiente acido, fanno iperfunzionare le pompe protoniche che pompano protoni H+. Se si bloccano queste pompe, la cellula tumorale rimane disarmata di fronte all'acidità, e finisce per morire autodigerendosi
A differenza dei chemioterapici - continua Fais - questi farmaci non hanno effetti collaterali e hanno dei costi molto più bassi. Basti pensare che quelli usati con la target therapy, che provocano tossicità e resistenza nel paziente, costano 50-60mila euro l'anno a malato. Con questa terapia invece il costo annuale sarebbe di circa 600 euro con il generico, e di 1200 con quelli di marca. Ma le industrie farmaceutiche al momento non sono molto interessate a questo tipo di approccio
I risultati are very encouraging - Fais go - because these drugs, in combination with chemotherapy have improved the patient's response to therapy, even in cases in which no longer worked, or metastases or recurrences. But the data must be confirmed on a larger number of patients and need the support of pharmaceutical
But the real turning point - Fais ends - will be if we have approval for a clinical study in which we will use only inhibitors proton pump, without chemotherapy. So to prove their effectiveness and the ability to use them as an alternative to chemotherapy
From these quotes you may notice a few things:
- is not never mentioned the baking, but are mentioned in general antacids
- the trial is still ongoing, then the conditional and the data must be confirmed
- nowhere to say that baking soda (this is called generic antacids ) can be used in place of chemotherapy. The last citation mentioned the possibility of being able to use in this way, but it is only a hypothesis yet to be confirmed.
bicarbonate is quoted as follows:
the antacids, proton pump inhibitors and even baking soda, could replace chemotherapy.
But this is a conclusion of the journalist.
Users of LC, despite all the screaming conspiracy accusing Republic to submit to the will of the powerful.
But let's see in detail some of the statements that followed Article posted by Mazzucco.
Fefochip : "... only the person proposing Simoncini therapy in a case in the ISS, which intends to soon to try antacids (if not the bicarbonate as the article says that shows the Fais words) instead of chemo had seen the encouraging results so far ... "
" ... what this article refers to trials in which chemotherapy and administering antacids or even BICARBONATE means that health is taking a radically different way from the chemo as it wants to do the next trial without chemo ONLY ANTACIDS BICARBONATE OR EVEN ... "
" ... today you find that administer an antacid or even baking soda (not I said lop said iss) to a cancer patient is not a heresy that is the established fact that the trials gave positive results so as to have the intention to try in the future only antacids or baking soda ... " ;
Elflaco : "... the article wanted to point out that when open-minded people, be they donors, researchers, they will agree you can do interesting things . The article does not attempt to "get on the bandwagon" but to emphasize the fact that someone, perhaps, had some reason and maybe that would have been better to be a little more curious about what someone was saying that instead of closing eyes and yelling at trufatore ... "
Stefo :" ... We hope these insights will lead eventually to a more effective treatment of cancer, generally accepted, at much lower cost ... "
Student: "... I do not see dates, but it seems to me that the Cancer Center in Tampa, Florida has plans to give bicarbonate to patients with advanced pancreatic cancer ..."
Pispax : "... If it turns out that baking soda effectively acts on cancer, surely the world will be better for everyone ..."
"... it would be irrational if I" believed instantly "that the chemo will replace the baking soda, or vice versa ..."
Azul : "... The importance of the use of sodium bicarbonate to curb the rise of tumor metastasis gains strength with the recent results of experiments conducted on mice. The substance raises the pH of the tumor obstructs the proliferation of cells ... "
Ahmbar :" ... It 's game (finally, I add) an experiment on the effects of antacids and bicarbonate in the treatment of cancer. What will come out 'is not knowledge, but we' note that the word "baking" and 'disappeared the next day from the pages of the newspaper which reported the interview ... "
incredulous:". .. The journalist said an official statement that clearly says, the press not the reporter, who made and will be experimenting with the 'use of bicarbonate. As I' do not just OS and nobody knows if this will lead 'to something ... "
All these people talked about possibilities, experiments to be done, hopes, tests, results to be confirmed. He even said that it would be irrational if you instantly believe that baking soda can replace chemotherapy.
But nobody noticed sbufalato themselves to have their prophet.
recap:
Article of the Republic was changed from " bicarbonate instead of chemotherapy. The antacids, proton pump inhibitors and even baking soda, could replace chemotherapy. " a " Antacids instead of chemotherapy? The other search is for the antacids. The generally used proton pump inhibitors for gastric ulcers may replace chemotherapy. . "Reason for correction?
Because the first statement was wrong and the users of the LC have unwittingly demonstrated.
Say" bicarbonate instead of chemotherapy. "Is absolutely wrong. Besides, not even the point question, which would serve to highlight the conditional.
So if ever there was a conspiracy because the news was published incorrectly in favor of Simoncini.
So, as someone pointed out , the same people who decry the newspapers because they keep hiding the truth about September 11th, keep the truth hidden lunar exploration and have hidden the truth about cancer treatments at the same time, those same newspapers, they tell you that baking soda can replace chemotherapy, without any doubt and without question, and immediately heads become credible and tell you the truth.
say that the ends become credible when they say what you feel like.
Some more examples of how on LC is no distortion of reality.
Edo: "I seem to remember that the use of bicarbonate for therapeutic purposes has cost at some Simoncini radiation"
False . Poteva essere succo di limone o noccioline, ma Simoncini sarebbe stato comunque radiato perchè non è tanto l'utilizzo del bicarbonato la causa della radiazione, ma l'utilizzo di pratiche mediche senza alcuna base scientifica. Tra l'altro queste pratiche mediche le sperimentava su cavie umane che spesso e volentieri versavano quattrini nelle tasche di Simoncini ( http://medbunker.blogspot.com/2010/07/venghino-siori-venghino.html )
E lo stesso concetto lo ribadisce, erroneamente, anche Fefochip :
”SIMONCINI E' STATO RADIATO PERCHE SOMMINISTRAVA BICARBONATO ALLE PERSONE poi che lo facesse perche convinto che dietro tutta la baraonda ci fosse il fungo questo è di secondaria importanza perche è un ipotesi ne piu ne meno della scienza ufficiale. “
Poi, Edo dice:
”insomma, Simoncini ha chiesto che la sua deduzione fosse verificata scientificamente, l'ha chiesto a un ministero che non gli ha mai risposto.“
In realtà non si capisce cosa Simoncini abbia presentato Simoncini a un ministero (quale ministero?).
Qui http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_cancro_%C3%A8_un_fungo si parla del fatto che Simoncini avrebbe presentato le sue teorie (e, sottolineo, teorie e casi empirici) ad alcuni convegni.
Traccia di questa presentazione ad un ministero non c'è, nemmeno sul suo sito.
Poi si ricorre al classico "che male vuoi che faccia". Vediamo Ghilgamesh :
”Scusa, ma tu sei un dottore? Se u porti una Zigulì, io non ti credo, se un Medico me la porta e mi dice di averci curato dei pazienti ... io je la faccio provare, non fa mica male! “
Il male lo fa Simoncini dando false speranze.
Poi c'è chi fa passare Simoncini come una vittima. Fefochip dice:
"Simoncini è stato pregato in ginocchio dai parenti del paziente di provare a eseguire la terapia con infiltrazioni di bicarbonato."
E quindi? Se uno mi Please kill someone and then are processed, Fefochip dear, do you think the murder may have extenuating circumstances because I have been asked to kill?
Or some say that both the patient was already with one foot in the grave, as Dr Jackal who has already demonstrated what he is capable of doing ( New undicisettembrini ):
"We do not say bullshit. The patient died because the cancer had been reduced by three quarters and one foot in the grave and there was nothing to do, not for water and baking soda. "
So? Am I allowed to hasten death in atrocious pain? Why was it?
But the Oscar goes to Branzac the plot, which shows that if I type google.com on "place" I propose, in the curtain of the search words in this order: lougle site, luogocomune.
If I search on google.it and yet I type "place," he shows the words in this order: Louis Vuitton, luogocomune. So
Branzac argues that because I typed "place" I can not google show before words beginning with "lough" than luogocomune.
How do know Google tries to interpret what you type including any typos.
Luogocomune And it's hard to pretend that it is more famous or trying to Louis Vuitton.
Or that the U.S. is more famous that Luogocomune lougle. In fact, if you search for "lougle" in Google.com will find several links. Among others in the U.S. is also a movement of mocking google also on Facebook. But
examples so if they find it a lot. If by Google USA type "lie" will be shown words that begin with "lie" interspersed with words instead begin with "lib". Same thing for the letters "he", "nio", "beu". In short, a great plot, right?
Sometimes I wonder: how these people live in constant search of a plot anywhere and everywhere?
Magra there to do. So
in the light of all this, if I was right with the same twisted mind of the conspiracy theorists might say that in the journalist said that baking soda can be used in place of chemotherapy because it has deliberately emphasized the issue Simoncini.
But I do not think, actually I just think that an article hits a lot more with a title so pompous, rather than put here and there or maybe the question marks.
If you are interested in the subject deepened. But you know, the conspiracy theorists do not care.
For them it is still a conspiracy.
good he is.
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